When Accuracy in Media's Cliff Kincaid questioned whether Obama was born in the US, the crowd broke into applause. Obama supporters and a few conservatives have tried to degrade Americans who believe it is important to see Barack Obama's original birth record. They have labeled this group as "birthers" and called them a fringe group. Based on the applause to Cliff Kincaid's statement, this group is a lot more mainstream than they would like to admit.
Introducing Rep. Pence at CPAC, Accuracy in Media's Cliff Kincaid questioned whether Obama was born in the U.S.
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As a Jewess in the US, I would like to remind everyone that Hussein Obama's birth certificate is still under SEAL, as are his high school, his college, and his graduate work records. His Kenyan records are SEALED. His Indonesian records are SEALED. Why? Is he ANY sort of American, even if he is NOT natural-born? Or, is he an illegal? America DESERVES to know the TRUTH!
It's the lead story on Politico today as well. On the front page.
http://www.politico.com/
But... in case you don't get to front page quick enuf, here's the direct link as well:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19450.html
Pretty Big Story.
Wendy,
Obama HAS provided his Birth Certificate and it's been validated by the state of Hawaii.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. Fukino says that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other. She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest in it.
More on Obama's Birth Certificate.
How can you sit there claiming Obama is hiding something when he's released a birth certificate and it's been authenticated as matching the one on file with Hawaii's health department? What more do you people want him to do? Mail each and every American a copy of his birth certificate, complete with the official seal of the State of Hawaii?
What is a conservative? How does one define conservativism?
Richard,
I think in this context, "Conservative" refers to anyone vaguely associated with the Republican Party, or to the Right of Republicans like Sarah Palin.
Most of the media members associated with the term "conservative" are embarrassed by the fringe questioning Obama's nation of birth. Obama's birth certificate has been verified by the state of Hawaii. Hawaii's department of health has stated that Obama was born in Hawaii. At this point the so called "birthers" are demanding a level of proof that's never been demanded of any previous President.
We have numerous documents, including published birth announcements, indicating he was born in Hawaii. We have the state he was born in making a special statement to verify the state of his birth. It's becoming increasingly clear the so called "birthers" will never see proof they find sufficient. They believe Obama wasn't born in the USA and they'll continue ignoring all the evidence saying he was, choosing to nitpick at fanciful forgery claims instead of facing reality.
Is eligibility to serve as president a birthright? Since the American Constitution, in the interest of protecting our national soveriegnty, prescribes that a president must be a "natural born citizen", apparently it is a right of birth, or at least, legally, of birth place.
The AOL news headline today is, “Obama Rumor Just Won’t Die”, in reference to the ongoing, persistent and justified questions regarding the man’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president of the U.S.
The matter remains legitimate because it rests at the very heart of America's essence with regard to it's true identity and it's constitutional authenticity. If our leaders can remain anonymous under legitimate scrutiny, how can we rely on them to defend us against our enemies and domestic tyranny? No real American, having served honorably in our military or in civil service, would ever honestly commit to service with a man like Obama. He is far too concealed to be trustworthy.
Despite the fact that many liberals would desire for the world to believe that the Constitution was written by old, expatriated, racist white men, the truth remains that our nation's identity is built upon our citizen's service and adherence to it's laws. And, tragically, what message does it send to the citizens of a nation when the elected officials violate the same laws they pretend to uphold?
The word you are looking for is, "Despotic".
The AOL story goes on, in dank liberal form, to paint the entire affair as a conspiracy theory propelled by the fringes of the conservative anti-Obama right. As though legitimate matters of Constitutional Law morally equate to a search for Bigfoot.
Only in the liberal mind could such absurd dissonance exist.
As insulting as the liberal media is to the intelligence of America, they remain secretly desperate to aid Obama’s covert leadership and help him conceal the unthinkable possibility of his “otherness”, and the resulting Constitutional crisis it will create.
Many rightly presume the probable impact on Constitutional integrity is the reason Obama, the mainstream media, including even Fox News, remains so unresponsive, if not outright secretive, about his actual identity.
The stick in the liberal craw, however, is that this man may indeed not actually be a natural born citizen, as defined by the commonly accepted interpretations of Constitutional Law, compliant with the factual history of previous American President's natural born status.
The questions are easy to answer. That is why the issue rings so loudly in the minds of vintage America. The answers to the basic questions are not as obscure as sasquatch, or the existence of the lost city of Atlantis. The questions are answerable with a phone call.
Therefore, the effort and resources employed by Obama to keep these records concealed is disproportionate with the plausible consequence of revealing what he claims they contain. A confirmation of his eligibility to serve as president.
Obama spent 2 weeks in Hawaii in September. Long before this issue became malignant.
Obama is so brazened in his ploy to conceal these records, he has even abandoned his liberal constituency by imposing complete information "black out" about the issue. Sadly, instead of being allowed to confirm Obama's true identity themselves, they are forced to trust the unreliable leftist propogandists of the Annenburg Foundation, Politico.com, the Daily Kos, the New York Times and the Huffington Post, all of whom probably know less than they do, as their sources. And, that’s a pretty pathetic lineup if objective, fact-finding, journalistic research is your interest.
Also, the hilarity in this, as with every other blind Obama sympathizer’s attempt to excuse away the facts, is that, despite irrefutable reality, this man has never actually produced any verifiable evidence to counter the facts of the conservative presumption. They simply claim that the presentation of liberal sympathizers are adequate for enthroning Obama.
And, after the debacle that resulted from the Supreme Court's involvment in election issues in 2000, the SCOTUS judges have suddenly become convenient cowards in response the matter of Obama's constitutional eligibility. Once again, they are derelict in their duty as interpreters of the law, when it is most needed. Yet, they seem ambitiously able to legislate matters outside of their jurisdiction when it agrees with their political views and moral ineptitude.
Regardless of the actual mysterious truth, Obama has submitted no confirmed record of birthplace, only a scanned image of a possibly forged Certificate Of Live Birth, which, as the State of Hawaii statutes prescribe, may be issued in any case where a living child is presented to the office of the Hawaiian Department of Health, regardless of the their actual place of birth anywhere in the world.
The scanned, altered image of the Certificate Of Live Birth presented on the Daily Kos was a complete hoax. And, a badly contrived one, at that.
The AOL story also falsely states, “For the record, officials in Hawaii declared last October that there was no doubt Obama was born in the state. Officials verified that the health department holds the commander in chief's original birth certificate.”
This is a lie. The first sentence of this account is outright deceitful, while the second sentence is erroneous by omission.
No official working for the state of Hawaii has ever provided official confirmation that Obama’s Birth Certificate states that he was born in Hawaii. To the contrary, the State of Hawaii did NOT confirm Obama’s place of birth, but instead, the Department of Health’s Director stated, without any notarization, that the “birth certificate of Mr. Obama, on file with the state of Hawaii is an authentic document.”
The Obama Birth Certificate may indeed be authentic. An authentic Birth Certificate from another country.
The statement pronounced no such evidence if his birth within the state of Hawaii, only that the Birth Certificate on file, probably issued from Kenya, was delivered to the state of Hawaii and thus sealed and filed accordingly.
This, as well as many leftist’s desperate attempts, continue to fail miserably in their blatant campaign to distract the American public from the facts that Obama, whether or not a natural born citizen, has never provided verifiable, official documents in support of his claims of eligibility. And, that is a perfected conviction founded in undeniable truth.
The liberal attempt to cull this issue under the categories of UFO theorists and witchery is amusing as it is absurd. And it is a complete rendition fabricated through their degenerate lust for all things Obama.
As Obama proceeds through his first term as America’s first pretend president, the fact that this matter continues to gather interest, even from Obama defenders, is startling. One would think that something so “ridiculous”, as it is characterized by probamates, would be disregarded. But, on the contrary, it has gained momentum. Exponentially.
If this were indeed a fringe conspiracy theory concocted by conservative zealots then why does poll after poll find that nearly 50% of all equally mannered American’s continue to have doubts about this man’s identity? And, nearly 47% of internet savvy Americans believe this issue will actually come back around to harm Obama’s presidency, eventually.
And, what’s more, why does the liberal media complex continue to give attention to the issue?
AOL, and the liberal media should spend more time prompting Mr. Obama to make his identity public, instead of allowing him to walk between the inquisitive rain-drops of authentic Americans. Perhaps, if this pretender were actually “transparent” instead of just a hypocritical manservant of the liberal establishment, he might actually gain some respect and support from those offended by his dishonesty.
Mr. Obama has three options.
One, he will simply continue through his presidency under the justified accusations that he is usurper, and a political infidel without ever showing any verifiable, official documentation about his identity. With this choice, he will complete his presidency without ever having the fullness of credibility that he probably deserves, or the respect of the most American’s possible. America is, predominately, a respectful nation. We may not agree with some politics, but we know a real person when we see them. Obama is not a real person to America right now.
Second, he can sack up and throw down the gauntlet this official identity records and let the chips fall where they may. Just provide the exonerating records and move on. Doing so would end this inquisition and instill America’s confidence. It would help the democrat party’s future and end the doubts about Obama’s eligibility. America is pretty fair minded. Despite being constitutionally ineligible, or worse, an illegal alien, Mr. Obama might find forgiveness in the liberally dominated justice system and he will be allowed to serve out his term as an elected official pro tem. I think we could manage to allow him that given the crisis that would need to be averted.
Third, he can surrender and resign. That’s not going to happen, so it looks like he has two options.
Then again, you never know what choice the fringe might make, either.
Penbrook One said...
"Is eligibility to serve as president a birthright? ...."
Nice post Penbrook.
Penbrook wrote:
"this man has never actually produced any verifiable evidence to counter the facts of the conservative presumption"
That statement is a flat out lie and I've already posted links detailing the fact that Obama HAS produced his birth certificate and it has been authenticated by the state of Hawaii. What do you want, a notarized copy of his birth certificate sent to each and every US citizen?
I give up. Based on what I've read the birther movement gleefully ignores all the evidence that Obama releases, choosing to reiterate the same tired old lies even though reality has discredited their claims. Obama HAS released the very document they claim to want and yet they keep demanding he release it. I'm forced to conclude that the birther movement consists of two camps.
1. Racists too determined to hate Obama for being non-white to face the facts.
2. Deep cover liberals who realized that if they can get people to associate birthers with Republicans they'll kill the GOP.
I would like to hold in my hand and examine every Republican President's birth records and get them to produce their medical records, criminal records, school records, passports, etc., etc.
To this every single person who is presently blathering on about a conspiricy to hide the truth about Obama's birthplace would swiftly and succinctly tell me exactly what the relevant authorities would tell me: go pound sand, I have no right to demand such original documentation.
To prove my point, I challenge anyone to produce the original birth cirtificate or a video taped session of them being given access to the original birth certificate of ANY living US President who hasn't given them permission to access the document.
What you goofballs never mention is that you are asking Obama for documentation that no other President has ever been even asked to provide to anyone who didn't have legal standing to request, let alone compelled to provide it.
On the other hand there is a long record of Presidents (most notably GW Bush) who fight long and hard to keep documents relating to their personal history secret, only releasing them when compelled by courts or when thought to be in some personal interest.
I am glad that Obama has decided that the release of more documents (that he is not legally compelled to)is not in his (or the countries)interest. Just as people have cooked up strange, far fetched and self serving explanations for the pieces of evidence so far produced to prove the birthers claims as false (two newspaper announcements, a sealed duplicate BC, etc.) they would no doubt continue to make stuff up to cast doubt on the validity of ANY new documentation produced.
The most telling part is that no one can give any plausible motive for the now numerous supposed acts of deception and fraud of 48 years ago. Obama could have been easily naturalized by his Mom if indeed he was born out of the country as the birthers "know", it would have been a simple, routine process. He would have had every single right and opportunity of any citizen except aspiring to the Presidency.
His parents would have had to have smuggled a child into the US (a federal crime) get 2 phony newspaper articles printed (with fraudulent cooperation from the newspapers and zero incentive for them to conspire), get the grandparents to keep silent about the crime, all the while knowing the only possible benefit of all this illegal activity would be gained only after the virtual impossibility of an event that supposedly they were predicting to happen 47 years before it did- Obama having Presidential aspirations.
Trying to reason with birthers is a waste of time. They start out by trying to sound intellectual, but quickly degenerate into hate-speech. Their hate is the outward manifestation of an inner emotion which is fear. Obama is a symbol for this. The big fear is that people of color will be in the majority within the next two decades. This will cause major changes in our American culture, which scares the hell out of WASP society.
Obama has never released his original certificate of live birth. The one filled in by hand by the doctor when he was born. Instead he gives us a computer printout. The question is simple: Why not release the original document? Why spend millions to block its release? There are millions who want to know.
"Why not release the original document?"
Do you have the ability to get hold of your original birth certificate? Some states issue photocopies of the original certificate and stamp it with a state seal. Hawaii only issues computer printouts with a state seal. No Hawaii resident could go out today and get a copy of their original certificate without jumping through a lot of hoops. Hawaii only issues computer printouts. Obama hasn't released the original you keep demanding because Hawaii doesn't issue photocopies of the original. For many births there IS no hand written version. The data was just entered into a computer to start with.
Has ANY past president been required to release their original birth certificate? No.
"Why spend millions to block its release?"
Because moderates see this entire debate as absurd sour grapes from racists. They watch the reports and notice details you keep ignoring. For example, a Hawaii certificate of live birth can be issued for someone not born in Hawaii, but by law that certificate has to state where the person was actually born. If Obama had been born in Kenya, his Hawaii certificate of live birth would have stated as much.
Moderates see the people demanding ever increasing levels of proof as lunatics and it's in Obama's best interest to let racist morons paint themselves as the face of the Republican party. The longer you keep this pathetic "issue" going, the more moderates will leave the Republican party in disgust, many joining the Democrats instead.
Given the damage this comical crusade is doing to conservative credibility, one has to ask, "how many 'birthers' are deep cover liberals out to damage conservatives?"
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